Photos © R.Leeuw
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The 2006 book DC-3, the First Seventy Years, published by Air-Britain which is an authority on vintage aviation, has the following on this DC-3 (which I copied from an email by Ian Macdonald): c/n 14193/25638 was R4D-6 Bu17263 which crashed near Toledo airport 23rd January 1949, there being no further reports of this aircraft. c/n 20806 43-16340 delivered 31st July 1944 - China via Miami 16th August 1944 - CNAC 100 (?) - renumbered XT-20 (?) February 1948 - N8350C C.L. Chennault and W. Willaur registered December 1949 - c/n given as 4193 by FAA - this is probably a line number which leads to this aircraft - N37800 Grand Central Aircraft 27th May 1953 - Johnson & Johnson 22nd October 1953 - N800J re-registered N8009 S.A. Tampos and G. Nash (Viewmaster windows) 22nd June 1959 - S.A. Tampos, Nashua NH July 1969 - Tiburzi Tours Inc April 1971 - Club Passport Inc, Pompano Beach FL May 1971 - Air Nashua Corp, Nashua NH (1975) - International Shoe Machine Corp, Nasgua NH registered 6th July 1978 - Victoria Forest & Scout LLC, San Francisco CA 23rd January 1996 - N877MG registered 24th January 1996, at Hayward CA September 2001, for sale October 2005. Jerry Vernon compiled this in June 2007: "There seems to be a lot of misinformation and or supposition in print about this aircraft!! This particular aircraft was supposed to have crashed one 23 Jan 49 near Toledo, Ohio, and has never been heard of since. It was presumably destroyed/scrapped by the U. S. Navy, but perhaps it was bought and rebuilt after it was Struck Off Charge by the USN in Jan 49. Air Britain feels it is a totally different aircraft, that went to China in 1944 for CNAC (General Claire Chennault et al) and resurfaced on the U. S. register in December 1949 with the identity "4193". See Ian MacDonald's comments. Of course, it is always feasible to take a data plate from a wreck and put it onto any other airplane that may not have a paperwork trail that will satisfy the FAA....it is done with great regularity with Mustangs and other warbirds after they have gone into a smoking hole in the ground!! I finally hit on the magic words in a Google search and found some Douglas Production Lists(Long Beach). As everybody has previously noted, c/n 4184 - 4199 are blanks, probably cancelled aircraft. However, in Part 03 of the list, the author of this particular list agrees with what you have just said, that 14193/25638 still exists and is N877MG, while c/n 20806/42-16340 went to China and has never been heard from again! It would really help if someone could find a data plate or something inside the aircraft that tells which one it really is. I'm sure we'd all love to get to the bottom of this mystery!" This led to the following message from Stoney Jackson, having been able to inspect the plane : "The s/n plates were attached to the co-pilot's seat. The original Douglas and USAAF plates were missing." Overhauled by Grand Central Aircraft Glendale, California Manufactured 7-28-44 Serial 4193 Type C-47B The FAA Registration lists the aircraft as DC-3C Owner : John T. Sessions Historic Aircraft Foundation 411 University St., Suite 1200, Seattle,WA 98101-2519. "As I understand it, DC-3C is the designation assigned to military surplus C-47s that were remanufactured to a civilian specification by companies such as Canadair. Many Dakotas, including the Basler BT-67 turbine conversions, are listed on the USCAR and CCAR as C-47, and will be that way forever, presumably because they were never remanufactured to the DC-3C civil spec." ("John T. Sessions is the Seattle aviation lawyer who also owned the Grumman Tigercat that has been at Victoria Air Maintenance since May 2006. It is now flying and is supposed to appear at the Abbotsford Air Show next week." Jerry Vernon) |
Ian made me aware of a video on YouTube, providing a complete tour through this executive aeroplane.
Then Kent Wien wrote me, in April 2007:
"I just finished a trip with my Dad in N877MG. My dad flew DC-3's for Wien Alaska Airways in 1950 through 1957.
My grandfather was Noel Wien, so it was only natural that my dad and uncle would fly for Wien until a corporate raider came in and
liquidated the airline in 1984.
He and I delivered this airplane from Plattsburgh, NY to Paine Field in Seattle. It will eventually be restored.
I wrote about each of the 5 days it took us to ferry N877MG, on my website
www.kentwien.com (click on 'trips')
And I put up a bunch of videos from the trip: www.youtube.com/profile?user=fly4fun"





| In August 2006 I received following email: "On the first anniversary of my honeymoon (a six-week automobile drive through the eastern states to New York from Memphis) we boarded a DC3 at the Memphis airport at 7 pm on August 18, 1941. Dinner was served shortly and, at about 7 pm, our berths were prepared for our bedding down. Through the night we refueled at various airports. I seem to remember that we flew at about 8500 feet and at a maximum speed of 250 mph; we stopped frequently (Nashville, Knoxville, Ashville, etc) for refueling. We were awakened at six the next morning (Philadelphia?) where breakfast was taken on; then, an hour later, we landed at Newark (?). When one experiences riding in the cattle cars of today, it make us long for the time when we were dressed to the nines with hat, gloves and high heels. What elegance; oh, would those times come again!" Jamie Daniel |
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