Log Reports from Greybull

Help solve the mysteries of previous identities and construction numbers

Heinz Rentmeister of Köln, Germany came to my aid in trying to solve the mysteries of the old, hard-worked transports at Greybull, Wyoming. They are (or were) owned by Hawkins and Powers, an aerial firefighting company. The aircraft are (were) kept at H&P's homebase Greybull for future investments, reconfiguration to airtankers, experimental innovations, spare parts supply to keep active aircraft operational and some for preservation.
But not all are fully identified to their Manufacturer's Serial Number (Msn) otherwise known as their Construction Number (C/n) and so their pasts remain shrouded in mysteries.
I hope by publishing this report, that reactions will come and we'll be able to fill in those blanks.
Heinz started visiting Greybull a long time ago and came up with several logs, made on August 13th 1979, May 07th 1980 and Oct. 21st 1990.
I added data from my database on top of those, marked as (...).
Fred de Ruiter contributed his report dated Sept 18th 1983. I have marked c/n's he contributed (source: Aviation Letters of those years) with (1).
Chris Charland, Associate (Canadian) Air Force Historian came to the rescue as well and now all ex/RCAF C-119s have their respective id's.
Niels Borcharding, propliner editor for Scramble magazine made much info available, too.
In Oct.2002 Jim Tomlinson mailed me his report, dated 12Sep87.
A more recent report came from Paul Kay, whose date of visit was 16Sep02.
Ralph Pettersen visited Greybull on 03May03 and his report is included. Dave Richardson did the same in November.
Bob Parmerter (author of the recommended Beech book, buy it !) supplied the c/n of Beech N7391C.
Some have been marked -*, this is info based on a photo on Airliners.net.
I received further updates again in 2004, by David Ellis and Marco Kosterman; it prompted me to seperate the aircraft that have been known to move elsewhere with the ones still present at Greybull.
Erik Sleutelberg sent me his list (Adobe Acrobat), his visit dates from 08Jul05.
Ralph Pettersen sent me his list of (Adobe Acrobat) his visit on 29Jul06. And Neville Spalding sent me his recordings from 29 April, 1986 (only C-97s, C-118s and C-119s); in Acrobat Reader format saved here.

Der=derelict, Std=stored, C/s=colorscheme, AFBM=Air Force Base Museum, Rereg=re-registered, Pres=preserved, nn=not noted, m/s=markings, nosig=no significant changes and/or remarks, -engines=minus engines.

MOVED ELSEWHERE (DESTINATION KNOWN) OR CONFIRMED PARTED OUT

TailnumberYearAircraft TypeMSN or C/nFormer IdRemarks
N505R79Lockheed 1818-2358 to USAF Museum March AFB,CA as "833538" 1983
N5205679Douglas B-18??? "Bolo". To USAF Museum Castle AFB,CA
N2123Y83C-117D(43386)(50786)Bought H&P Jan83, sold 1984 D&D Parts Inc, rereg N212DD '87
At Opa Locka in 1992 and 1993; scrapped?
01379Consolidated PB4Y??? Der; restored & flown Pensacola NAS for display
N28..G89Consolidated PB4Y??? Wreck, crashed ca. 1978/1979
N7620C90Consolidated PB4Y(66260) Tanker "123"; crashed July 18th 2002
N2870G83 97Consolidated PB4Y-2(66304) 87: wreckage, marked as tanker '122' 1997:remains only,used to rebuild N7682C; no more sightings
N9701F 02 03 04 05 06 Fairchild C-82A 10184 45-57814 02=on main ramp 03=east of rwy 15/33 04=storage
05="USAF". 29Jul06 main ramp.
Flown to Hagerstown Aviation Museum, Hagerstown,MD in Oct.2006 (arriving on Oct.15th).
N966S79 83Fairchild C-119G(10738)RCAF 2210779=Std minus 1 rudder
Preserved at Hill Aerospace Museum, Utah as "52-2107" (note similarity Canadian serial); unconfirmed.
N355989 90Fairchild C-119G10870(RCAF 22118)89=std. 90=no turbojet.(To Dover AFBM)
N356079Fairchild C-1191095722132Broken up, tail parts remaining; no more sightings
N5217R79 83 89 90Fairchild C-119G10860RCAF 2211679=Std in bad shape, 87=RCAF with titles, 89=wreck, 90=parked main ramp. To Nat'l Infantry Museum, Ft Benning (GA)
N8091 79 83 86 87 Fairchild C-119G10906(1)RCAF 2212279=Std minus rudders. 87=no rudder, otherwise complete. To March AFBM 1988
N8092 79 83 86 87 89 90 Fairchild C-119G10678RCAF 2210379=Std/der, 89=wreck, 90=for museum
To Nat'l Warplane Mus.,Geneseo,NY More
N15502 79 83 86 87 Fairchild C-119G10825(1)RCAF 2211479=Std minus rudders. 87=rudders missing, otherwise complete RCAF with titles.
To McClellan USAF Museum (date?), photo 1996, USAF c/s, RCAF serial 22114
N1550579 87 89 90Fairchild C-11910676RCAF 2210179=Std/no rudders & engines, 90=same.To D.F.Pratt Museum (KY) Sep95 to restore 131679
N15506 79 83 86 87 Fairchild C-119G10736(1)RCAF 2210579=Std minus rudders & engines.87=engineless and rudderless, full RCAF colors. Anno 2002 pres Milwaukee airport as 51-2680
N1550883 87Fairchild C-119F10993(1)RCAF 2213487=complete, RCAF livery with titles painted out. To Travis AFBM,CA 1996
N5215R 79 83 86 87 89 90 Fairchild C-119F10773RCAF 2210879=Std/bad shape, 87+89=wreck; 95=museum Battle Mountain,NV as "N5216R" Tanker 137. 29Jul06 museum compound, T136.
N3142D83Fairchild C-123K20029 To Pima Air Museum, AZ
N8190B02 03Fairchild C-123K 20144 54-0695Formerly at Minnesota ANG Museum 03=std area north 04=storage
Registered 07Dec04 Advanced Air,Iowa
05=CP894. 29Jul06 storage area north.
N233HP86 87 89 90 94 02 03 04 05Douglas C-118A (44661) (152689)USN c/s, AMARC code CG095, sprayer; '689'
03=std area north 04=storage; 05=noted as AMARC code 8C025
Sold to Everts Air Cargo in 2005 for parts.
29Jul06 storage area north, -engines. Left in Oct07.
56-51190Lockheed C-130A182-3119  ex/USAF-Montana ANG. Converted to airtanker Oct90, Jul92 to Hemet Valley Flying Service N132FF, Tanker 83
N134FF89Lockheed C-130A1A-3146(56-0538)USAF camo, later rereg N130HP (below)
Note: C/n 3146 was N134FF, but only between Aug88 and Jul89, when it was reregistered to N130HP; see also c/n 3104 below.
N130HP90Lockheed C-130A1A-3146N134FFTanker "130" see CRASH 17Jun02
6049690Lockheed C-130A182-310456-0496ex/N8053R, N-reg painted over; at Hemet,CA Aug2003
Mark O.Williams Nov.2007: "..wanted to let you know what is left of C-130A s/n 56-0496 is now at Yuma Proving Ground, AZ to be used as a ground loading test bed for the Aerial Delivery section. Apparently AMARC wanted to much money for a C-130 and the folks at Yuma Proving Ground were able to locate and purchase 56-0496.
I am told they plan to add electrics and hydraulics to the airframe 'soon as' to allow the ramp and door to open for testing new load configurations.
I am a C-130 flight engineer out here doing some test work and spotted it earlier this week. Here are to pics of the aircraft on Photobucket, they were taken today (08Nov07) by me:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/F106A/000_0006.jpg or here.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/F106A/000_0005.jpg or here.
Hercules specialist Lars Olauson cleared my confusion on tailnbr N134FF belonging to 2 airframes: "FAA says N134FF is/was 56-0496 which definitely is c/n 3104.
It was reregistered N134FF in March 1991 (from N45R), but this registration was possibly never painted on.
From about Aug93 it was stored for parts and got the marking N8053R which it still had when it was sold to Yuma Proving Ground in Oct 2007.
I do not know if N8053R was properly registered. N8053R is, according to FAA, now a different airplane, not a Hercules.
It is correct that 3146 has been N134FF, but this was only between Aug 1988 and July 1989, when it was reregistered to N130HP
." [JAN.2008]
N139HP 90 03 04 05Lockheed P2V-7(726-7168)145906"139", jetpod ex/ N3935 "139" (C-119). 03=in hangar 04=main ramp
05=BuNo.145906
Sold feb06 to Neptune Aviation, became Tanker 43.
P.3-595 02 03Lockheed P-3A5036 15051002=std, ex/Spanish AF 03=std area north 04=storage
Reg'd N917AU Aero Union 01Oct04
N140HP 90 03 04 05Lockheed P2V-7(726-7102)(140443)"140" 03=in hangar 04=main ramp
05=nosig. Bought by Neptune Inc, rereg'd N445NA Apr06.

MOVED ELSEWHERE (DESTINATION UNKNOWN) OR PRESUMED PARTED OUT

N212TH89Casa 212??? Hangared. Fate ?. N212TH reg'd 07Jul03 Bell 212 chopper...
C-GHCF89Douglas B-26(27799)(N9420Z)ex Conair, Canada, ex/44-34520
N961S79 80Fairchild C-119G(10872)(RCAF 22120)all metal
6050790Lockheed C-130A182-311556-0507ex/N8055R, N-reg painted over
Possibly rereg N4172Q ?
15052900 02 03 04Lockheed EP-3A 5055 150529 02=std 03=std area north 04=storage
05=being parted out
N51599

86 87 89 90 94 02 03 04 05

Douglas C-118 (44662) 53-3291USAF c/s, code "JT" (87) 03=std area north
04=storage 05=VR-52
Not reported present during 2006, rereg to Everts Air Fuel 03Jan06, presumed parted out for spares.
N129HP90 94 02 03 04 05Lockheed SP-2H (726-7200) 147950,N22154USN c/s; rereg N129HP Oct97.
02=std 03=std area north 04=storage 05=nosig. Not sighted 2006.

David Ellis added this to his report: "I have based my comment around the Ralph Pettersen list as it is essentially accurate with what I saw . My only gap on the visit was the museum compound as a strong sandstorm blew up as I left the ramp and I didn't stop to confirm the contents of the museum. Firstly there are no aircraft stored to the east of the airfield now - all being in the main storage area. Aircraft underlined have notes attached.. He found 2 ex/RCAF C-119s he was not able to identify, plus a C-130

TailnumberYearAircraft TypeMSN or C/nFormer IdRemarks
N7391C 79 03 05 06 Beech 18S846044-8720179=der 89=on tail:2888 C-45F-BH;prob'ly tail of other acft
03-museum compound 05=44-87201A. 29Jul06 museum compound.
N880V 79 83 87 89 90 97 02 03 04 05 06 Lockheed 18-566124 At H&P museum in 1995. 02=on main ramp.
03=std,south area 04=storage 05=nosig
29Jul06 main ramp.
[Dlvd to the RAF on 06Dec1941 as an L-414 Hudson; was converted to a L18-56 Lodestar in Dec55.]
N126HP 90 02 03 04 05 06 Douglas B-26(27799)(N94207)"28", ex C-GHCF above. 02='BC-520' 44-34520
04=main ramp, 05="Lulu" (44-34520)
29Jul06 main ramp
N2871G 89 90 97 02 03 04 05 06 Consolidated PB4Y-2(66302) Tanker "121"; 97=looked great.
02=on main ramp. 03=same 04=storage
05=multi colour. 29Jul06 main ramp.
N2872G 83 02 03 04 05 06 Consolidated PB4Y-2(66300)  operational with H&P; 02=on main ramp.
03=same, T124. 04=storage 05=airliners.net
29Jul06 storage area south.
N7962C 83 89 90 02 03 04 05 06 Consolidated PB4Y-2(59882) Tanker "126". 02=on main ramp
03=same 04=storage
05=nosig. 29Jul06 storage area south.
N6884C 90 03 04 05 06 Consolidated PB4Y-2(59701) Tanker "127". 03=on main ramp. 04=storage
05=nosig. 29Jul06 main ramp.
N314CF 02 03 05 06 Consolidated PBY-5A 427 02=with the museum 03=museum compound, wings removed
05=reported as (N206M) Alegre Air, no m/s, being restored
29Jul06 main ramp.
N5102B 04 05 06 Fairchild C-82A 10152 45-57782 95=fuselage 00=nosesection 04=storage
05="Interior Airways", fuselage only. 29Jul06 storage area north.
N8009E 04 05 06 Fairchild C-82A 10071 44-23027 95=fuselage 00=nosesection 04=storage
05= "Flying B", fuselage only, blue. 29Jul06 storage area north.
N393589 90 05Fairchild C-119G10870(RCAF 22113)"139" with turbojet; see N139HP "139" (P-2). Pres as Tanker 136 N5216R
05="7120-0259-9"
N5216R89 90 93 94Fairchild C-119F 10956(RCAF 22131)"136" with turbojet on roof, RCAF c/s; fake registration, see N3935 or full story
N3003 79 86 87 89 90 02 03 05 06 Fairchild C-119F 10737(1) RCAF 2210679=Std/der 87=engines and wheels missing,RCAF with titles,
89=wreck 90=no status (N3003 only rh-side);
02=std '03' 03=std area south
05=nosig (N3003/03).
See also John Chapman N3003 1989 photos
29Jul06 storage area south, tanker 03.
N300389 90 04Fairchild C-119??? Seen as coded "3E". 87=airworthy,metallic but with RCAF livery and ex serial still visible on the metal. Tanker '01'. 04=storage
See also John Chapman N3003 1989 photos
N8093 86 89 90 94 02 03 04 05 06 Fairchild C-119G(10776)(RCAF 22111)"140" +turbojet on roof, RCAF c/s; airworthy 2001? 02=on mainramp,Tanker 140 03=east of rwy 15/33 04=main ramp.
05=nosig. 29Jul06 main ramp.
N8094 79 83 86 87 89 90 94 00 03 06 Fairchild C-119G10994RCAF 2213579=Std/bad shape, 89=wreck, 90=for museum.
03=std,area south, "135" under wing. 29Jul06 storage area north.
N15501 79 86 Fairchild C-119G10955RCAF 2213079=Std minus engines. 87=airworthy metallic but with RCAF livery and ex serial still visible on the metal. Tanker '01'. Also reported stored Tucson,AZ 90 & 96?!
This is N15501, during mid-1990s, simply reg'd N1.
2005 = N15501/H0180-H "XXExpress"
29Jul06 main ramp.
N8505A 00 02 03 04 05 06 Fairchild C-119F 17953-807602=std 03=std, area south, USAF m/s, no jet 04=storage
05="076" visible
29Jul06 storage area south.
N37636 95 00 02 03 04 05 06 Fairchild C-119F25353-815002=std 03=std, area south. "Georgia Box" * 04=storage
05=nosig. 29Jul06 storage area south.
N4999P 03 04 05 06 Fairchild C-119G25753-8154ex/N90267; 03=only nose section remains 04=storage
05=nosig. 29Jul06 storage area north, no reg.
/06 05 06 Fairchild C-119C10830?RCAF ...05='10830'on nosewheeldoor. 29Jul06 museum compound, 06 on nose and reardoors.
N127HP 89 90 94 02 03 04 05 06 Fairchild F.27F33 Hangared; 02=stored 03=std, area south 04=storage
05=nosig. 29Jul06 main ramp.
Sep.2006 being worked on, bought 18Sep06 Philippi Equipment Co. and Great American Corporation
N97HP 83 86 87 89 90 02 03 04 05 06 Boeing KC-97L(16612)(N8516T)std, all metal. 02=rereg N97HB 03=N97HP still on acft 04=storage
05=nosig. 29Jul06 storage area south.
N397HP 83 86 89 90 02 03 04 05 06 Boeing KC-97L (16990) 53-0208AMARC code CH619 (89), AZ ANG, refuelling boom. 03=std area south 04=storage
05=same, 0-30208. 29Jul06 storage area south.
N497HP 83 86 87 89 02 03 04 05 06 Boeing KC-97L(17047)53-0265,N1386MUSAF c/s, incl refuelling boom, AMARC code CH589 or 539. 03-std area south 04=storage
05=CH589 (N497HP). 29Jul06 storage area south.
N1365N 89 90 02 04 05 06 Boeing KC-97L 22698 (52-2698)Coded "84",ex WI ANG/Milwaukee; 2002: "97" 04=storage
05=nosig. 29Jul06 main ramp.
N297HP83Boeing KC-97??? became N972HP; see below
N972HP 86 87 89 94 01 02 03 04 05 06 Boeing KC-97L (17132) 53-0350stored, USAF c/s, 0-30350; 02=std 03=std area south 04=storage
05=nosig. 29Jul06 storage area south.
N29862 00 02 03 04 05 06 Boeing KC-97L1679252-276102=std 03=std area south 04=storage
05=nosig. 29Jul06 storage area south.
N29866 00 02 03 04 05 06 Boeing KC-97L1672652-269502=std 03=std area south 04=storage, 2695 on the nose, has the tail code of 0-22680 (52-2680)
05=tailsection of c/n 16711 52-2680
29Jul06 storage area south.
N171AM90Lockheed P-2???141171?AMARC code , IP334, ex USN. --See below N173AM--
N173AM 02 03 05 06 Lockheed P-2H 726-7129 14317302=in the museum; probably ex/N171AM 03=museum compound
05=AMARC code 1P334. 29Jul06 museum compound.
N8908F03 05Lockheed P2V-7726-710014044103 04=main ramp
05=code PA013. scrapped 2006? Not sighted 29Jul06.
N128HP 90 94 02 03 04 05 06 Lockheed P-2H(726-7074)140972,N2215GUSN c/s; rereg N128HP Oct97.
02=std 03=std area north (reg not applied)
04=storage 05=148338/GF. 29Jul06 storage area north, -engines.
N122HP 90 94 02 03 04 05 06 Lockheed SP-2H(726-7226)148341,N2216KUSN c/s, no engines; rereg N122HP Sep97 03=std area north 04=storage
05=AMARC code 1P388. 29Jul06 storage area north.
N2216S 90 94 00 02 03 04 05 06 Lockheed P-2(726-7231)148346USN c/s; 02=std 03=std area north 04=storage, N22165 on the starboard side
05=noted as N22165/4. 29Jul06 storage area south.
N22165/405Lockheed P-2H??? 05=no details; see N2216S above
N2218A 90 94 00 02 03 04 05 06 Lockheed SP-2H (726-7243) 148335USN c/s; 02=std 03=std area north. AMARC:IP412. 04=storage
05=nosig. 29Jul06 storage area north, -engines.
N2218E 90 00 02 03 04 05 06 Lockheed SP-2H (726-7246) 148356USN c/s; 02=std 03=std area north. AMARC:IP419 04=storage
05=AMARC code reported as 1P429, read N22183; see Airliners.net
29Jul06 storage area north,-engines.
N2218Q 90 94 00 02 03 04 05 06 Lockheed P-2H (726-7255) 148359USN c/s; 02=std 03=std area north 04=storage
05=ex/VP-62. 29Jul06 storage area south, -engines.
N125HP 00 02 03 04 05 06 Lockheed P-2H726-7035135588, N4846N02=std 03=std area north 04=storage
05=AMARC code 1P310, /ZV-... 29Jul06 storage area south.
N7060Y02 03 04 05Lockheed SP-2H 726-7167 145905 02=std 03=std area north 04=storage
05=nosig. 29Jul06 storage area south.
N8056D 02 03 04 05 06 Lockheed P-2H 726-7057 140154 02=std 03=std area north 04=storage
05=AMARC code 1P339. 29Jul06 storage area north.
No Reg90Lockheed P-2  ex/USN, for conversion. --See below N7060X and N138HP--
N7060X93 94Lockheed P-2 726-7207 147957 --See below N138HP--; see May 2003
N138HP 04 05 06 Lockheed P-2  Quoted by H+P as airframe for failed turbine conversion
04=storage 05=no report (in hangar?).
29Jul06 storage area north, -engines; photo-1 and photo-2
N131HP 02 03 04 05 06 Lockheed C-130A1A-314256-0534, N132FF Tanker "131". 02=on main ramp 03=east of rwy 15/33 04=storage 05=nosig, cockpit on A.net
29Jul06 main ramp.
N132HP 02 03 04 05 06 Lockheed C-130A(1A-3115)56-0507, N4172Q02=on main ramp 03=east of rwy 15/33, 0507 marked on nose. USAF camo, engines red*. 04=storage, has N41720 scored out, not N4172 as listed
05=nosig. 29Jul06 storage area north.
N133FF 94 03 04 05 06 Lockheed C-130A1A-3143 56-0535see Id by tyres 04=storage
05=no tail, reg nn. 29Jul06 storage area north.
N133HP 90 00 02 03 04 05 06 Lockheed C-130A (1A-3189) 57-0482, N8026JTanker "133". 02=on main ramp 03=std area south 04=storage
05=nosig. 29Jul06 storage area north.
N134HP 90 94 00 02 03 04 05 06 Lockheed C-130A 182-3218 57-0511ex/USAF-Rhode Island ANG; 02=std 03=std area north 04=storage
05=no outer wings. 29Jul06 storage area north.
N135HP 90 02 03 04 05Lockheed C-130A 182-3166 57-0459ex/USAF; 02=stored 03=std area south 04=storage
05=no outer wings. Included on 21Jun06 list (below), not on 29Jul06 list by R.Pettersen
N8230H 02 03 04 05 06 Lockheed C-130A 182-3220 57-051302=std 03=std area south. All grey, reg almost invisable 04=storage
05=nosig. 29Jul06 storage area north, -engines
93-731305Lockheed C-130H ??? 93-731305=731st AS, 302nd AW, in overhaul. Not on 29Jul06 list.
93-731405Lockheed C-130H ???93-7314 05=731st AS, 302nd AW, in overhaul. Not on 29Jul06 list.
Notes & remarks:

Jim Tomlinson offered the following on the two N3003s which have been sighted at Greybull:
There were two aircraft marked as N3003 here on my visit in Sep.1987.
N3003 is always listed as c/n 10737 ex RCAF 22106. But this was clearly the previous serial of the WFU (without further use) aircraft in RCAF colours, not the airworthy example. The airworthy N3003 had all traces of its previous identity removed from the metal skin, unlike N15501.
It would appear that the airworthy N3003 has taken the identity of the WFU N3003. If this is the case, what is the real identity of the airworthy (at that time) N3003? Is it some sort of rebuild from a damaged aircraft?

See also John Chapman N3003 1989 photos

Two other mystery planes at Greybull are : "06" (N3003/22106?) and another "06" (N8094?)
Again, Jim Tomlinson has something to say about these:
Another mystery is the identity of the two aircraft marked '06'. Comparing pictures taken on my visit in 10/87 with pictures of the engineless '06' in faded RCAF colors taken in 10/97, I think this aircraft is N3003/22106. The RCAF scheme, although more faded, seems to match.
This preserved aircraft in repainted RCAF as '06' could be N8094, which I note on your list was in the museum in 1990.

Sean Keating advised me of a clue to identifying former Canadian C119's: the radar nose cone, if a museum has replaced it with a short nose, then the screw holes still show the outline of the original nose.


During 2005 H&P went into liquidation.
The following were changes on the FAA civil register during Sep.2005, all aircraft registered to Pride Capital Group of Deerfield,IL.
Listed in type order, showing registration, manufacturer, model and serial*
*Note that "serial" is meant to be construction number, but is often the former military registration. Aircraft need not to be present at Greybull, but it does give a good account of the hardware previously owned by H&P.
N1365N BOEING KC-97G 52-2698
N97HB BOEING KC-97G 52-918
N29862 BOEING KC-97L 52-2761
N29866 BOEING KC-97L 52-2695
N397HP BOEING KC-97L 53-208
N497HP BOEING KC-97L 53-265
N90203 DOUGLAS C-54G 35934
N8505A FAIRCHILD C-119F 179
N8093 FAIRCHILD C-119G 10776
N8094 FAIRCHILD C-119G 10994
N15501 FAIRCHILD C-119G-3E 10955
N3003 FAIRCHILD C-119G-3E 10737
N37636 FAIRCHILD C-119L 53-8150
N9701F FAIRCHILD C-82A 45-57814
N131HP LOCKHEED C-130A 56-534
N132HP LOCKHEED C-130A 56-507
N133FF LOCKHEED C-130A 56-535
N133HP LOCKHEED C-130A 57-0482
N134HP LOCKHEED C-130A 57-0511
N135HP LOCKHEED C-130A 57-459
N8908F LOCKHEED P-2H 140441
N122HP LOCKHEED P2V-7 148341
N128HP LOCKHEED P2V-7 140972
N129HP LOCKHEED P2V-7 147950
N138HP LOCKHEED P2V-7 148338
N139HP LOCKHEED P2V-7 145906
N140HP LOCKHEED P2V-7 140443
N173AM LOCKHEED P2V-7 143173
N2216S LOCKHEED P2V-7 148346
N2218A LOCKHEED P2V-7 148355
N2218E LOCKHEED P2V-7 148356
N2218Q LOCKHEED P2V-7 148359
N8056D LOCKHEED P2V-7 140154
N125HP LOCKHEED SP-2H 135588
N7060Y LOCKHEED SP-2H 145905
Credit: Nigel Howarth, forwarded by Jeff Rankin-Lowe.

The following list was published on Yahoo's Classic Propliners forum in Aug.2006,a posting of Neville Spalding of ADU Software , Kevin Widdowson being the creator of this list.
I have sorted the list a little and added the remarks (thanks to Erik-Jan Hartman for adding many details).

21/06/2006 Greybull, WY
Reg/Code Type C/n & Line nbr
Owner
Remarks
N9701F Packet C-82A 10184 Hawkins & Powers Aviation At auction Aug06 bought by Hagerstown Aviation Museum, Maryland for usd 140.250,-
131706 Boxcar C-119G 10891 Hawkins & Powers Aviation -
N15501 Boxcar C-119G 10955 Hawkins & Powers Aviation R23jan07 Hans O.Lauridsen, Carefree,AZ www.lauridsenairmuseum.com
N3003 Boxcar C-119G 10737 Hawkins & Powers Aviation  
N37636 Boxcar C-119L 253 Hawkins & Powers Aviation  
N3935 Boxcar C-119G 10824 Hawkins & Powers Aviation As N5216R Sold at Auction Aug06; buyer?
N8093 Boxcar C-119G 10776 Hawkins & Powers Aviation Donated by Bob Stanford , Zenith Aviation, Fredericksburg,VA to Hagerstown Aviation Museum [Dec.2006].
N8094 Boxcar C-119G 10994 Hawkins & Powers Aviation  
N8505A Boxcar C-119F 179 Hawkins & Powers Aviation  
N122HP Neptune SP-2H 726-7226 Hawkins & Powers Aviation Bought by Neptune Aviation Services of Missoula,MT (registered 08Jan07).
N125HP Neptune SP-2H 726-7035 Hawkins & Powers Aviation -
N128HP Neptune SP-2H 726-7073 Hawkins & Powers Aviation Bought by Neptune Aviation Services of Missoula,MT (registered 08Jan07).
N138HP Neptune SP-2H 726-7223 Hawkins & Powers Aviation  
N173AM Neptune P-2H 726-7129 Hawkins & Powers Aviation  
N2216S Neptune SP-2H 726-7231 Hawkins & Powers Aviation Bought by Neptune Aviation Services of Missoula,MT (registered 08Jan07).
N2218A Neptune SP-2H 726-7243 Hawkins & Powers Aviation  
N2218E Neptune SP-2H 726-7246 Hawkins & Powers Aviation Bought by Neptune Aviation Services of Missoula,MT (registered 11Jan07).
N2218Q Neptune SP-2H 726-7255 Hawkins & Powers Aviation Bought by Neptune Aviation Services of Missoula,MT (registered 08Jan07).
N7060Y Neptune SP-2H 726-7167 Hawkins & Powers Aviation  
N8056D Neptune SP-2H 726-7057 Hawkins & Powers Aviation Registered to Harold Sheppard Jr, Riverton,WY on 06Sep07
N127HP F-27 A 33 Hawkins & Powers Aviation -
N131HP Hercules C-130A 3142 Hawkins & Powers Aviation Bought by Int'l Air Response Inc 20dec06
N132HP Hercules C-130A 3115 Hawkins & Powers Aviation -
N133FF Hercules C-130A 3143 Hawkins & Powers Aviation Bought by D&D Enterprises, 12Sep06
N133HP Hercules C-130A 3189 Hawkins & Powers Aviation Bought by Int'l Air Response Inc 20dec06
N134HP Hercules C-130A 3218 Hawkins & Powers Aviation -
N135HP Hercules C-130A 3166 Hawkins & Powers Aviation -
N8230H Hercules C-130A 3220 Hawkins & Powers Aviation  
N1365N Stratofreighter KC-97L 16729 Hawkins & Powers Aviation Sold at auction Aug06, to Clay Lacy.
N29862 Stratofreighter KC-97L 16792 Hawkins & Powers Aviation Sold at auction Aug06, to Clay Lacy
N29866 Stratofreighter KC-97L 16726 Hawkins & Powers Aviation  
N397HP Stratofreighter KC-97L 16990 Hawkins & Powers Aviation  
N497HP Stratofreighter KC-97L 17047 Hawkins & Powers Aviation  
N972HP Stratofreighter KC-97L 17132 Hawkins & Powers Aviation Sold at auction Aug06, to Clay Lacy
N97HP Stratofreighter KC-97G 16612 Hawkins & Powers Aviation Reg'd 30Apr07 to Harold Sheppard,Jr of Riverton,WY as N97HB (dba Sheppard Trucking)
N233HP C-118A 44661/628 Hawkins & Powers Aviation Bought by Everts Air Fuel Jul05, registered 10Feb06, flew out GEY Oct07, arriving PAE for work on it on 29Oct07.
N2871G Privateer PB4Y-2 66302 Hawkins & Powers Aviation Sold at auction Aug06, to ?
N2872G Privateer PB4Y-2 66300 Hawkins & Powers Aviation Sold at auction Aug06, Yanks Museum
N6884C Privateer PB4Y-2 59701 Hawkins & Powers Aviation R18Jan07 D&G Inc, Casper,WY
N7962C Privateer PB4Y-2 59882 CK 132 Hawkins & Powers Aviation  
N314CF Catalina Canso A 427 Alegre Air  
N687MA CN-212 Aviocar 200 174 Murray Aviation  
N7391C Beech 18 UC-45F 8460 Private  
N8190B Provider C-123K 20144 Hawkins & Powers Aviation Landed 15Aug07 at Sioux Gateway Airport,Iowa after successfully completing a 750-mile ferry flight; donated to Mid America Transportation & Aviation Museum
N880V Lodestar Dallaero 18-6124 Hawkins & Powers Aviation   

Not listed in the above was N126HP A-26 Invader, which was sold in the Aug06 auction to Lauridsen Aviation Museum of Glendale Mun'l Airport,AZ.
Lockheed P2V Neptunes N8056D and N173AM were sold for respectively 5,000 and 6,000 US dollars and seem destined for the scrappers.
Air Classics (June 2006) reported that P2V-7 N8908F (BuNo 140441) was cut up for scrap as an exercise to see how much value it would fetch in that form.
N90203 C-54E c/n 35934 was registered to Hawkins & Powers Aviation on 30Apr04. This aircraft was previously owned by H&P but operated by Aero Flite, which is based in Kingman,Arizona. On 28Sep05 it was registered to the Pride Capital Group. Why it was reregistered to H&P I do not know, time will tell I suppose; it is most likely still in Arizona.

A large number of vintage- and firefighting planes were being auctioned off during Aug. 2006. Hawkins and Powers ceased operations during 2005 and a over sixty(!) vintage planes and aerial fire-fighting aircraft were on offer.
Hawkins & Powers were pioneers in aerial firefighting, having been founded as a company in 1969 by co-owners Dan Hawkins and Gene Powers. Over the years, the company grew to become one of the nation's leading providers of firefighting services, aircraft and equipment to the USDA Forest Service and other federal and state agencies.
The company's aircraft and the business of aerial firefighting also featured in the film, "Always" (starring Richard Dreyfuss). And Fairchild C-119G N15501 starred in the film "Flight of the Phoenix."
It was only to be expected that several aircraft were destined to meet their fate by the hands of the scrapman...


On a Yahoo forum (PBY, forwarded on Classic-Propliners) an interesting message appeared (Aug.2006)--
".... at the big auction in Greybull, Wyoming. This was Hawkins & Powers treasure trove of old stuff and it was something else.
At Lone Star we're restoring a PB4Y2 with Cyclones and have a B-25 that's a regular flyer too (N333RW). H&P had an unbelievable quantity of R-2600 engines and parts, some new and a lot of used rebuildables. Translate this as a huge amount of same is now entering the warbird market and John said things look a lot brighter for R-2600 users now. Virtually every round engine builder in N. America was there. Lone Star's friend Carl Sholl (sp.?) made the deal of the centurey on 600 used 2600 cylinders for like three bucks a jug!!! We also got some more Cyclone cowlings for the 4Y. There were a bunch of their leftover water bombers there too and "everything" sold.
Two 4Y's were sold, one east coast and one west coast.
The Neptunes were junk, but there was a nice A-26 that sold kind of low.
On a negative note, a scrapper bought four or five of the C-97's and began chopping them immediately, with the metal already dealt off to China."
Doug.

Elsewhere someone wrote: "I was told that Clay Lacy bought three of the KC-97s and he doesn't plan to scrap them." ...Hope???


Rick Pisio wrote 31Aug06 on WIX-forum:
"Yesterday I spoke with the curator for the The Museum of Flight and Aerial Firefighting in Greybull and he told me that he was able to keep for the museum:
At least 1 of the PB4Y's, possibly 2
C-97
C-130
P2V-7 (currently on display at the airport entrance)
(2) C-119 (the two that were on display at the airport entrance)
C-45 (also currently on display at the airport entrance)
He also said that all of the buyers have until the 8th of September to remove their purchases or make special arrangements with the airport, which I assume means lease storage space back. The airport should look a lot different after the 8th."
www.rwphotos.com

Jay volunteered the following info on that same forum:
"I have the following owners to match the numbered aircraft. Tanker 121 (N2871G) was purchased by a business man from Phoenix, AZ and will be made to fly again. Tanker 124 (N2872G) was purchased by the Yanks Air Museum in Chino, CA. T126 (N7962C) is owned by the Hawkins family and will probably be sold in the future. T127 (N6884C) is owned by Gene Powers and has not been sold at this time. The earlier post about the (4) KC-97's being scrapped by the end of last week was totally false. These are very large aircraft with a very small scrapping operation. Also, here are the following N-numbers for the KC-97's that Clay Lacy purchased: N1365N (tanker configuration), N972HP (cargo configuration) and 229862 for parts."

The following was published online on GREYBULL STANDARD [31Aug06]
Auction Signals End Of H&P Era [by Nathan Oster]
Buyers from throughout the United States converged on Greybull last week for the auction of assets formerly held by Hawkins and Powers Aviation. Representatives of Great American Group, the asset management firm which purchased H&P last year, report that all of the planes were sold during the liquidation auction conducted Aug. 23-24 at the airport and online.
"We had 200 buyers, between those bidding online and those who were here," said Phil McArdle, supervising consultant for Great American. "Overall, things went very well, and we ended up doing better than we had projected going into the auction."
"One of the planes on the auction block, a C-82 Packet used by the U.S. Navy during World War II but later converted by H&P to carry 3,000 gallons of fire retardant, went for $127,500 to buyers representing the Hagerstown Aviation Museum. According to news accounts, the museum had solicited public donations to bring the twin-engine, propeller-driven plane back to Hagerstown where Fairchild Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation operated for 55 years until 1984. The plane, built in 1945, is the same type of craft that appeared in the original "Flight of the Phoenix" movie, and will become the centerpiece of the museum.

Carl Meyer, a longtime H&P employee and current general manager of B&G Industries, said B&G ended up buying one of the C-119s that was on the auction block. "For years, people driving past here have seen airplanes," said Meyer. "With the vast majority of them being scrapped, we made a decision to buy one so that people can continue to drive by here and see a C-119. "By putting it on display, we will retain some of the history that was once here."
Meyer said most of the interest in the PB4Y-2s came from "warbird people" who desire to restore the planes and display them for the public. One buyer, however, was more interested in the plane?s history as a retardant airplane. "He wants to keep the retardant things in it and be able to fly it and demonstrate how it was used postwar," said Meyer. "He recognized its history as a retardant airplane, and did not want to lose that."
Great American representatives would not disclose the selling price of any of the aircraft or other aviation equipment that sold last week.

Prior to the sale, there had been an effort led by Ralph Reiner, curator of the Museum of Flight and Aerial Firefighting, to raise funds to keep the planes in the local area. He cited the need to keep the following planes, (in addition to the above C-82 Packet)-, for the museum-
1. PB4Y-2 Privateer used by the U.S. Navy against the Japanese during World War II but later converted by H&P to carry 3,000 gallons of fire retardant.
2. C-119 cargo plane built by Fairchild Company that appeared in the movie, "Flight of the Phoenix."
3. C-130 Hercules, made by the Lockheed Company, that was used as a large cargo plane during World War II but later converted to carry up to 3,000 gallons of fire retardant.
4. C-97 Boeing Stratofreighter, that was the largest air tanker in the world, capable of holding up to 4,000 gallons of fire retardant.
5. L-18 Lockheed Lodestar.

Unable to raise the necessary funds, Reiner expressed sadness this week that "so many great planes will soon be gone," but vowed to fight on in his quest to preserve the aviation history of the Greybull area. "Come next year, we'll still be up there," he said. "There will be seven or eight planes that won't leave here, and we are going to do everything we can to try to find more planes and keep the museum going, and possibly even make it larger. "I am not going to give up, even though I'm getting to be an old man. Preserving this part of our history is too important for me to do that."
Reiner said he plans to apply for grant money, and to continue to work with Sens. Mike Enzi and Craig Thomas and Rep. Barbara Cubin, as well as Gov. Dave Freudenthal.
Transitions For Great American, the auction was the culminating event of the firm's stay in Greybull. "We will be done here within the next month, after we make sure everybody has received their goods and things are cleaned out," said McArdle, who personally has spent the past year living in Greybull. "It?s been a great place, and the whole town has been very friendly and willing to help," he said. "I think we?ve done a good job for the town." He cited the creation and success of B&G Industries. "We kept the business in place, created employment for former H&P employees, and through the auction, we have given B&G Industries approximately 12 months of work."
McArdle suggested and Meyer later confirmed that B&G Industries plans to expand its workforce in Greybull. "Prior to the auction, actually, we'd secured enough contracts," said Meyer. "But as a result of the auction, we secured even more contracts which will require more hiring." Those hirings, Meyer stressed, would be permanent. B&G currently employs 24. "With the workload we have on our plate now for the next six to eight months, we are eight to 10 people shy," he said, adding that the company will be looking for licensed aircraft technicians and skilled mechanics. "From a B&G perspective, we feel really positive right now," summarized Meyer. "The company is off to a great start, we've secured some good contracts, and we are hiring. "The people we have here, with the skills that they possess, have helped us tremendously in securing more work and allowing us to go forward."

The following provides a bit more info on B&G Industries,
Source: Billings Gazette 16Feb06.
By RUFFIN PREVOST -Gazette Wyoming Bureau-
GREYBULL - After months of uncertainty that saw financial straits, management changes and rounds of layoffs, the former aerial firefighting firm of Hawkins & Powers has found a buyer.
In an agreement expected to be signed Friday, B&G Industries of Thermopolis has reached a deal to acquire the Hawkins & Powers name, interests and remaining assets, said principals involved in the transfer.
The new company, to be known as B&G Industries, will continue to operate from the Big Horn County Airport near Greybull, and will retain all 21 employees, said Paul Galovich, co-owner of B&G Industries.
"We're all very excited," Galovich said. "There are some big challenges here, without question. But we believe we can make this happen."
Hawkins & Powers President Jim Taggart called the deal "a very good fit for the employees, as well as for the creditors and owners. It's really a win-win situation, and I wish them well."
The deal included an agreement between B&G and asset liquidator Great American to acquire the hangar, tools and other fixed assets necessary for continued operations, Galovich said.
Last fall, Great American bought the hangar, tools and dozens of aircraft parts and other assets from Hawkins & Powers, which made the deal to pay down $14 million in debt.
Hawkins & Powers had previously lost its core business, aerial firefighting, after the federal government ceased contracting for the services following crashes of two of its airplanes in 2002.
Hawkins & Powers employees had recently met with Galovich and his partner, Karl Bertagnole, and Taggart said he believed all of the employees had decided to stay on with the new company.
Taggart said he was hopeful that B&G Industries executives would be able to expand the aircraft refurbishing business.
Galovich said improvements to the airport infrastructure would eventually be necessary, including construction of a larger hangar and upgrades to water systems for fire suppression improvements.
"We would hope to, within the next couple of years, establish a new hangar to completely house the aircraft, and with that it gives us an extended opportunity to work on a lot of different types of aircraft," Galovich said.
"All of these things can definitely be accomplished," he said. "With the facilities and employees we have there, we could not be in a better location for this type of operation than Greybull, Wyoming."

In March 2008 I received following email from a former H&Pcrewmember:
"I have some insight on some of these aircraft, as I flew for H & P for some time. To solve the mystery of the various numbers, you will need to get with the USFS and/or USDA. For a few years, they had the practice of assigning tanker numbers.
There wasn't much logic involved in these numbers. As the various operators around the country would send in the paper work to register their aircraft for the up-coming fire season it would be given a number. If it already had a number, it stayed. But if you swapped an aircraft one year that didn't have a number, they would give it a number that was not used on the list.
As a result an operator might operate 6 aircraft and have tanker numbers 06, 123, 86, 29, 101, 137. If one became un-flyable before the next year, it did not pick up the number of the one it replaced. It might be 22, or any other of number you can think of.
In the case of N-numbers, they have nothing to do with serial number of the aircraft and can at best possible aid you in tracking the aircraft from year to year-sadly, however, may not have anything to do with a particular aircraft. I have seen some aircraft with a different tanker number every other year. Even some had a different N number every few years...
As you may have noticed, many of Gene's aircraft had N-numbers which ended in HP. At one time, he got a block of these numbers from the FAA. Those numbers were swapped around on various aircraft almost yearly!
It was simply a matter a writing the FAA a letter and officially moving the "registration number" to a different aircraft.
I flew the 97 (B377), C-119 and PB4Y as well as other "stuff" he might have around.
One of your contributors noted that a radome had be added to one of the C-119s. Some of the original 119s Gene had, did not have radomes, as they did not have radars. The bunch he got from the RCAF all had radars, and thus radomes. Anytime he wanted to put a radar in a 119, regardless of its lineage, he would take a radome from one of the RCAF machines to house it. Gene had a particular knack for making things work without spending a lot of money."

 

Greybull on Airliners.net


Chuck Lunsford wrote a book about his days as a radio operator onboard the C-119:
Click here "Departure Message"

He also wrote a novel, featuring the C-119 Flying Boxcar, called "Boxcar Down, the Albanian Incident" Click here

Both books can be bought through BookSurge.com

Another writer, Larry E. Fletcher (ex USAF Captain), used his personal experience to write a novel about the C-119 Gunship in Vietnam: "Shadows of Saigon, Air Commandos in SE Asia".

Some of my links connected to Greybull and / or C-119s:
Greybull 1994
Log Reports from Greybull
Log report and photos by Ralph Pettersen, May 2003
A report from David Ellis, June 2004
Unidentified C-119s at Battle Mountain,NV
Greybull 1983, photos by Fred de Ruiter
In search for identities of unidentified airframes
Sales ad (2006) by Zenith Aviation Page 1 and Page 2


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